Korea has one of the most vibrant communities of Buddhist nuns in the world. To my knowledge, only Taiwan has anything even close. While there are still some inequities, such as the tendency for monk’s temples to attract more donations, in terms of practice, the nun’s community is outstanding.
Two of the major institutions for nuns (and also monks) are the meditation hall, the seonbang, and the sutra study program, the kangwon. This is a four-year course of study where one lives at the kangwon with Korean sunims,* while attending lectures and commentaries. This involves massive amounts of memorization and traditional sino-Korean (Chinese) characters, as well as the daily work you’d expect at a large temple. Only upon completion of one of these courses is a nun (or monk) allowed to take full ordination in Korea. (This applies to only the Jogye Order, although it is by far the largest Buddhist order in Korea.)

However, Jaeun Sunim (/ja-un/), a Canadian, did not choose this path. She was one of two bikkhunis** who were the first to take full ordination after graduating from the kangwon. This interview examines her experiences and why she endeavored to spend years training in a completely different cultural environment. This interview originally appeared in the Lotus Lantern magazine.
* Sunim is the Korean title of respect and address for both nuns and monks. It’s similar to “venerable.”
**Bikkhuni is the term for a fully ordained Buddhist nun.
By the numbers:
7000+ The number of nuns in Korea’s Jogye Order.
6 – Kangwons attended by Buddhist nuns
18 – Meditation halls exclusive to nuns
All of these kangwons and meditation halls are run by the nuns. Men (including monks) are generally not allowed in these temples.
How did you become interested in Buddhism?
I think it would be truthful to say that I have always been a Buddhist. However, as I was born in a country where there is no indigenous Buddhist tradition, it was many years before I was able to recognize it.When I was in the first grade at school, a student asked our teacher, “Who made the world?” and she said, “God made the world”. Another student asked, “Then, who made God?” and she said, “We shouldn’t ask questions like that”. I remember asking, “Why not?” I had many questions about life that nobody seemed to want to talk about. My experiences with Christianity were similar: I was told to just have faith and that we shouldn’t try to understand the mind of God. These attitudes served to quell my interest in religion. So I redirected my inquisitiveness in a more “acceptable” direction and studied science, eventually majoring in biochemistry.
When I was a university student, I did volunteer work with the local chapter of Amnesty International, and was shocked by the stories of torture and injustice that are committed so routinely around the world. I realized how well off and comfortable I was compared to most people in the world. My life seemed so useless in the face of all that suffering, and this brought back many of the unanswered questions of my childhood. So as a graduate student I did research in virology, with the idea that I could do some good in the world by helping to understand diseases so that they could be more effectively treated and prevented. At the same time, I started to read more in philosophy and psychology, and to explore some alternative spiritual paths.
One day a friend told me she was learning to meditate and suddenly I found myself saying that I wanted to learn too. She loaned me a book by Vietnamese master Thich Nhat Hanh and as I read it, I simply knew that I was a Buddhist. My friend introduced me to a woman who was teaching meditation, and eventually I met her teacher, the late Venerable Namgyal Rinpoche, and other students of his who were teaching Buddha Dharma. From them, I began to learn the fundamentals of Buddhist theory and practice
It was such a relief! In Buddhism, I not only found others who were asking the same kinds of questions that had nagged me since childhood, but a way of spiritual life in which this kind of questioning is in fact necessary and encouraged.

Sunim, you were one of the first two Western nuns to graduate from a traditional Buddhist seminary (kangwon), and now have received bikkhuni ordination in the Jogye Order. Since graduation from seminary isn’t required for foreign monks and nuns to receive full ordination, why did you decide to do it?
Most Korean Bikkhunis believe that training in the seminary is necessary for novice nuns to provide a foundation for their monastic life and practice, and the vast majority of nuns in Korea attend the seminary for four years as the basic training before full ordination. The only way to really understand something is to experience it yourself. And for a Westerner to understand a particular Buddhist tradition, it’s important to get as close to the roots of that tradition as possible. Because Western culture is so different from Korean culture, life in the seminary would also teach me how to live together harmoniously with Korean nuns. So it seemed attending the seminary would be the best way for me to get a good foundation to monastic life and a deeper appreciation of the Jogye tradition and life as a Korean Buddhist nun.
How was life in the seminary?
Seminary life is communal. We eat, sleep, study, and practice together in one room with everyone else. Communal work is also a large part of the life. Through this we learn to consider others first, putting the needs of the community before our own personal needs. At Cheongam Temple (/chung-am/), the nuns in the first three years (about 80 people) live together in one room; the fourth year nuns live together in a separate room. To live so closely together with many people means that one’s actions, moods and energy affect everyone in the whole group. Therefore one has to learn to act in harmony with the community as much as possible and to let go of one’s opinions and selfish desires. Anything one does that negatively affects others becomes immediately apparent, and one has to work to correct it. For me this was very difficult, but is actually a very deep training in mindfulness, and so also wonderful practice.

Now that you have graduated and ordained as a bikkhuni, what will you do?

I think the most difficult part for me would be being in the same room with all those people, constantly, but what an amazing teaching in interconnectedness/non-duality it must be.
Is it acceptable to wonder off to a quiet place, in solitude now and then, or is that not encouraged?
Hi Joseph,
people go for walks up the mountain all the time, though there’s not much free time in the first year.
Jaeun Sunim didn’t mention the worst thing about living in the same room: snoring! If you get one or two people who really snore…!
Though, if you’re lucky, there’s an extra room where they’ll be sent to sleep!
I was already thinking that one…
I once slept in a room with three monks on Buddha’s Birthday… One of them snored the entire night.
He tried to blame me in the morning, but the other monks didn’t buy it! haha
Thank you for this fascinating interview with Jaeun Sunim. Have you ever met her Chong Go Sunim?
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And talking of Lotus Lantern… have you seen the Summer 2010 edition? It’s great! Brian Barry inside, and Kun Sunim on the back page…. with a quote that would be a great post here one day! http://www.koreanbuddhism.net/library/academic_essay/view.asp?article_seq=6621&page=1&search_key=&search_value=
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Hi Marcus,
I’ve met Jaeun Sunim a number of times, though not for a year or so. She’s very down to earth, smart, and almost as tall as I am! She’s back in N. America, so our paths don’t cross that often anymore.
Isn’t that a great article with Brian?! I see a visit in my future to the office that puts the Lotus Lantern together!
great dedication, probably comes from knowing about Dharma in the past life.
And communal living and working and putting community before personal is so like the life I remember in Soviet Union, also memorizing texts and the way of study, and nobody in school would ever say that the world was created by God. (ha-ha!) and education in Canada, as in US, does not teach much in schools, kids are ignorant of history and …(long discussion and off topic)
” to experience the teachings ” – that is precious
Thank you very much for posting this. A timely topic and discussion, given the current issues surrounding bhikkhuni ordination in other traditions.
With a bow of gratitude…
Hi Venerable,
Thanks for stopping by!
Some of the nuns here are just so impressive that it’s hard for me sometimes to believe that people are still debating female ordination.
Frankly, they tend to work harder than the monks, and amoung themselves, set higher standards of behavoir as well. For example, if a monk doesn’t like a kangwon, he can usually just leave and go to another one. If a nun leaves, she better have an incredibly good reason if she wants to continue at another kangwon.
I’ll put up another post in the next week or two about some of the nuns’ temples I know of that have really impressed me.
Dear Sunim,
Thanks for posting this. A friend of mine is in seminary training to be a Korean Buddhist Nun. She recently started a photo blog to document and express the lives of Buddhist Nuns.
Sunim’s blog can be found at:
http://fromthisshore.wordpress.com
She’s pretty busy with school right now so posts are infrequent, but I look forward to her future work.
Thanks again Sunim.
Best,
– roy.
Great Roy! Thanks for sharing the wonderful link!
I looked and looked, but I don’t seem to have many photos of life in the nuns’ kangwons! Go figure…;-)
Do you know where she’s studying?
Btw, the photos of the Buddhas in this post are from Cheongam Temple. It has such a good feeling.
Sunim is studying at UnMun Sa.
wow, thanks for the link!
I’m adding it to my list now!
rather interesting post!
i laughed when i read ‘One day a friend told me she was learning to meditate and suddenly I found myself saying that I wanted to learn too. She loaned me a book by Vietnamese master Thich Nhat Hanh and as I read it, I simply knew that I was a Buddhist.’:)
i’m thinking for quite a while that Buddhist’s don’t ‘become’ Buddhists but suddenly regognize they ‘are’. and yes, ‘It was such a relief!’ to finally have found home.
another thing i’m thinking about is what Joseph already mentioned in his first sentence, this hard situation being constantly together with so many people. even HH The Dalai Lama said in his instructions for a good life that you should be at least one hour a day totally on your own. yes, we are part of society, maybe part of a community but nevertheless we are ‘build’ as individuals, aren’t we? to regognize yourself as part of the whole is very much a finding by your mind. but there we are with our ‘body’-level
as well…
I’m so glad to read about Jaeun Sunim and her story. Thank you for publishing it.
Great article on Jaeun Sunim. I met her at Mu Sang Sa in 2002 after the Whole World is a Single Flower conference. Nice to see the teaching she has brought back to North America.
Beautiful story. Our mentoring group was discussing the matriarchal lineage and this is a lovely addition to our understanding.